Obesity = Dementia risk

topic posted Fri, April 29, 2005 - 12:44 PM by  Gi Gi
On the BBC today
a report stating that obese people have a 73% higher Dementia reportage
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/healthy/4492745.stm
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Gi Gi
  • Re: Obesity = Dementia risk

    Tue, May 3, 2005 - 8:53 AM
    bummer for the obese!
    Though I have known plenty folks who were skinny and suffering from dementia too..
    • Re: Obesity = Dementia risk

      Tue, May 3, 2005 - 8:53 AM
      by the way, the link didn't work.
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        Re: Obesity = Dementia risk

        Tue, May 3, 2005 - 9:40 AM
        Obesity increases dementia risk

        Obese women were 200% more likely to have dementia
        Being overweight in middle age increases a person's risk of developing dementia, US scientists believe.
        Obese people in their 40s are 74% more likely to develop dementia compared to those of normal weight, a US National Institutes of Health team found.

        The lifetime dementia risk in those who were overweight was 35% higher, their study of more than 10,000 US men and women over three decades revealed.

        The findings are published online at bmj.com.

        If the results can be confirmed, perhaps treatment of obesity might reduce the risk of dementia

        The study authors

        The authors warned that the present epidemic of obesity might lead to a boom of dementia in the future.

        For the study, obesity was defined as a body mass index 30 or above and overweight as a BMI of between 25 and 29.9.

        A normal BMI lied anywhere between 18.6 and 24.9 and is calculated by dividing a person's weight in kilograms by the square of their height in metres.

        All of the participants underwent detailed health checks from 1964 to 1973 when they were aged 40 to 45 and were monitored until 1994 to see whether any had developed dementia.

        Overall, 713 (7%) of the participants developed dementia.

        Body mass index

        BMI predicted dementia more strongly among women than men. For example, obese women were 200% more likely to have dementia than women of normal weight, while obese men had a 30% increase in risk.

        Both men and women with the highest skinfold measurements - another indicator of obesity - had a 60-70% greater risk of dementia compared to those with the lowest measurements.

        But a person's ethnicity did not appear to be important.

        The researchers believe that obesity might increase dementia risk either through a direct effect on the brain or by its association with medical conditions that are also known to increase dementia risk, such as cardiovascular disease and diabetes.

        However, when they looked at whether the individuals had diabetes or cardiovascular disease, neither appeared to alter the dementia risk.

        A Swedish study recently found that the higher a woman's BMI, the greater the chance they would experience brain tissue loss, which is one of the first indications a person is going to develop dementia.

        Dr Rachel Whimer and colleagues, who conducted the latest study, said: "If the results can be confirmed, perhaps treatment of obesity might reduce the risk of dementia."

        Professor Clive Ballard, of the Alzheimer's Society, said: "The findings are consistent with previous studies showing that risk factors for heart disease, such as high blood pressure and high cholesterol, are also risk factors for dementia.

        "And it is likely that the association between obesity and dementia is explained by the increased frequency of these other risks in people who are substantially overweight.

        "Given that the number of people with dementia is already increasing dramatically as our population ages, it will be extremely important to minimize additional preventable risk factors such as obesity."

        He said evidence showed leading a healthy lifestyle could help to reduce the risks of dementia.

        news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4492745.stm
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          Re: Obesity = Dementia risk

          Tue, May 3, 2005 - 9:43 AM
          i think its the junk food that makes you fat can also affect your brain in the sense you are filling up on tasty empty stuff and not getting the nutrients you need.

          also my father when he stared having diabetic symptoms had levels of dementia where he would forget what he was talking about and stuff like that. after getting his sugar under control and eating a little bit better he said that it is not at all close to what it was before eating better and having his diabetes under control.
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    Tue, May 3, 2005 - 10:46 AM
    Wow!! Thanks Violet for posting it.
    Sometimes I don't seem to get it right on the kinks I mean links.... maybe too early for or it was the Leche con dulce ice cream in the coffee that am.....

    Definitly junk food is mostly empty nutrients which makes for lack of biochemicals for the body to convert to needed substances; & I often say "Brain Uber Alles" meaning the brain is a hungry organ for its desires, what it needs to function, & doesn't care about how the body looks really. The Ego in the Cortex may but not the deeper functioning brain cells other than to support the organs it needs to support it like the Heart, Lungs, Liver, Pancreas, Kidneys, Stomach in something like that order ie in my catoon description of Brain function the Brain will 'steal' Calcium from the Bones to supply the Heart which must have it to continue beating Blood with the Nutrients up to the Brain.
    As long asthe Brain is Hungry for biochemical nutrients it will send out a signal "feeed mmeee", & we sure can answer that call easily here, then trow in a hungry Heart, oh my oh my where's my ice cream wine float with some buttery shorbread on the side????????

    Dr Paulings & Hoffers hypothesis many years ago is that junk food represents cleaved molecules so that the synapses get partial chemical messages, or only part of a sentence or paragraph. They also found that people who were allegic to certain foods could eat the same food if it was organically grown; hence the immmune reaction was to the pesticides etc, not the food. And who knos what lurks in foods nowadays.........
  • Re: Obesity = Dementia risk

    Wed, July 23, 2008 - 11:32 AM
    Old article repost, please refer to lulu.com/astrology
    lulu.com/astrology & RTRRT
    Subject: Discreate Obesity!

    Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance
    Date: 2002-11-13 02:10:04 PST
    FATBALL
    an exercise in Cascade O5 technique
    A)
    Imagine a hamburger, rotate it 180 degrees so that it stands like this
    (|)
    and pass through splitting it apart
    This technique is called cascade an has been and is still used in portal
    ritual.
    B)
    Imagine a big fat ball afloat in thin air yust before you.
    Now pass through it. It splits in two as you pass it by forever and it's
    discreated energies lightly touch you as they pass under your elbow pits.
    /1/
    /1/
    This simple technique has been developed after many hours of O5 experience.
    After something like two years or so, there was need for something simple
    efficacious and fast. It has shown good results with beginners, too, so we
    begun to introdusce it in our programs and use whithin our applications.
    CASCADE is now an `O5 technique' although it does not have 5 steps it still
    has all the elements of discreation proper.
    One word about commas (,) I am dropping them out because I feel they stop
    the flow. It may annoy one at first. I guess I started dropping them off
    only a few days from now. I'm of course getting childish and we children
    won't use commas any more.
    Dear friend!
    I studied your case. Daniel Quinn in his `The Story of B'
    elaborates on food overproduction and salvation of this
    civilization. Florinda in `Eagle's Gift' by Carlos Castaneda
    has the second stalkers rule `dispose of unnecessary'.
    There is a place where things like food are amassed and it's
    like a church and stronghold. People use to hide food. Hidden
    food has special power.
    Let us suppose that the same way we rear chicken, the personal
    devil rears us. Back to the story of Hansel and Gretel then.
    The witch lived in a sweet house.
    Already the lower jaw hangs. We'll discreate that. Donate some
    food. Discreate some shame. Dissolve most ego. Let us pretend
    ego is an alien. It dissolves and goes home into oblivion.
    Fate off now! Discreate your fate! Discreate the karma of being
    fat or anything. Various negativities and emotions can be hooked
    to being fat or something. In discreating fatballs, one can hit
    sore spots and begin to cry. Good. Discreate anything, any trashy
    emanation, emotion of body feeling that comes after the main discreation.
    Sour grapes hang in grapes and hear us through the grapevine. Shot at
    them. We're shamans. Shout your unbendable INTENT-I-do! to shake'em
    off. We are not only attempting a cure, we INTEND to dissolve ALL of
    our problems! We are not only getting to be an idle slim any body, we
    are heading towards total liberation!
    Traveling affords new opportunities for ego discreation. The
    traveler practices modesty since not battling on his own territory.
    While dozing off in the plane, use this formula for fun:
    INTEND and BE a slim body NOW.
    1. MERGE with your fat ball.
    2. Expand the fat ball while breathing in to universal dimensions.
    3. Exit the fat ball and label it (FATBALL) for deletion.
    4. Disclaim the experience of being fat. You no longer need that
    experience. You won't FAT to the BALL any more. INTEND it so.
    5. Allow for the quiet self destruction of the FATBALL.
    REINTEND and BE a slim body NOW!
    Alienation can be one cause for the want of being noticed an occupying
    territory. We know how to expand. Now when we expand that lovely fat
    ball and go with it puffing it up to omniversal dimensions, it becomes
    a warm sun and melts itself! Perhaps exploding like a supernova.
    The expanding fat ball that melts itself becoming a warm sun will be
    one model we can always use. It takes perhaps minutes and the astral
    discreation has been done.
    Choose your own body from a variety of choices. All those bodies models
    are stored in TESAIRON EIDOLON or the treasurehouse of images we can
    call the astral kingdom or imagination. Picking up the arhetype of the
    slender body is equal(ly easy) as picking up the archetype of the fat
    one. My guru would say the same amount of energy one uses to become fat
    is then used to become slim. Imagine that. It's actually the same (amount
    of) energy. Relax since you can do it. After all it's your energy and you
    decide (INTET-I-do!) what to do with it.
    Armed with scissors and a magazine stack, one cuts out bodies he likes,
    pasts them on a special cardboard or peace of paper and pastes his own
    head on that lovely body. This `treasure chart' will serve as focusing
    anchor for the whole of the operation. Many people have gained and lost
    weight, big deal. Congratulations! We are doing something. We are losing
    fat, weight and ego. Exactly the surplus that overweights us on our way
    to Graceland.
    Discreation basic formula
    INTEND your goal.
    1. MERGE with the OBSTACLE:
    2. Expand with the OBSTACLE as you breath it in.
    3. Exit and LABEL the OBSTACLE for deletion.
    4. Disclaim the OBSTACLE as your own now useless creation.
    5. Allow for the OBSTACLE's SELF-DESTRUCTION.
    reINTEND your goal.
    When this formula is applied to the body, we expand from the navel area
    to encompass the whole of the body, exit hovering like Tinklebell fairy
    pasting a name like BODY and discreating it or imagining it in dissolution
    doing it several times even for an hour. Live deliveries are almost like
    ritual in smooth violet light with the song of the whales and dolphins
    teking you back to Adam's (dis)creation. All you have to do is to discreate
    your body from time to time. It does not mean your body will dissapear but
    it'll diminish. Stress and death will go away, namely stress is accumulated
    in the body and fear of death makes it stiff. Bad dreams are stored in the
    thighs and O5 discreates it all. Bad vibes melt and fresh energy comes.
    You won't go to the BALL! Properly intended this can be our motto meaning
    we won't ever get any fat and the old fat dissolved forever now. Note the
    present tense affirmation.
    An USENET post was touchingly relevant. It said her father had an ouija
    board which determined that a demon is responsable for her being fat.
    Exactly! Inorganic beigs do exist in `primitive' civilizations, as well as
    `modern' mankinds. This is a topic worth exploring. Perhaps one would like
    to read a book by Malidoma Patrice Some.
    In the case we accept we have demons on our backs, we can accept exorcism.
    Well, O5 is like exorcism, and the O5 master can dance around the person
    he wants to help and induce majik trance. Tears are a good symptom of losing
    self importance. Of course weight is self importance, too; in some way.
    Years are self importance, too; so we lose years in the process. Years
    are ego and we are becoming 2 years young; remember?
    The feat would be to become as little children. Age two. Do you recall
    anything? Be age two. Age2. 2age. Ta2age. Play being age 2. We are not
    only losing weight, we're using ego. Gurus use to keep their students
    from falling asleep and keep them always absurdly busy. They are merciless
    towards ego because ego is our enemy.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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